Steve G: Those who think taxation is theft, how do you have police?
I know that many conservatives want limited government and are OK with limited taxation to go along with that, but many people here say that taxation is theft, and the implication is that there should be no taxation at all.
Many of you understood the question, but a bunch of you apparently thought my example of police was all there was to the question! How about military, roads, sewers, etc? I am giving start to the conservatives who answered reasonably, even though I think the appropriate roles of government are more numerous than you think. There is room for reasonable people to disagree.
Answers and Views:
Answer by Joey million
what makes police so special? Guns. What does the second amendment do? give guns to citizens. Problem solved.
I dont need the police. They arent required to protect us anyways. They protect the state and in effect have become revenue collectors. hey can’t have the people thinking they can protect themselves, afterall, how will you get people to support increased budgets for police and the expansion of the state if they realize that they themselves are their own security?
Michael Housley of Arnold, Maryland had his hands full dealing with his wife’s health crisis when the police materialized on his doorstep last July 12.
Earlier that day, Housley’s wife Leah had been taken to the hospital for a mental evaluation. When she left without being discharged, a nurse called the police and asked them to do a “safety check” — a request that is rapidly becoming a leading cause of preventable death.
Housley refused to let the police see his wife, and ordered them to leave. This should have ended the matter. It didn’t, of course.
Officer Doyle Holquist tried to “detain” Housley — that is, the uninvited armed stranger criminally assaulted the worried husband and attempted to kidnap him. Housley broke free and ran inside his house, locked the door behind him, and called 911 — perhaps in the desperate hope of casting out Beelzebub by Beelzebub’s power.
When Holquist and his comrades contacted their supervisors, they received conflicting instructions: One of their superiors advised them not to force their way into the home, the second told the officers that they could break down the door. Nobody gets extra credit for correctly guessing which of those instructions the officers chose to follow.
Once the police had demolished the door, Officer Holquist escalated the matter further, adding aggravated assault to criminal trespass by dousing Housley with pepper spray. One of Holquist’s homies, Cpl. Jeffrey Bauer, attempted to subdue Housley, who “bear-hugged” his assailant. Bauer’s response was assault with a deadly weapon, shooting the besieged man twice with his portable electro-shock torture device.
Confronted with three armed, violent intruders who had repeatedly assaulted him Holquist staged a desperate counter-attack by grabbing a wooden chair and swinging it at Bauer, who — recall — had just attacked him with a lethal weapon. Holquist drew his firearm and shot Housley in the neck.
For several days after the shooting, Housley was in critical condition. During that time, Leah Housley, the supposed beneficiary of police intervention, wasn’t permitted to see her husband, whom she correctly described as the “victim” of criminal violence.
On June 3, a jury acquitted Housley of two counts of second-degree “assault on a police officer,” one count of “resisting arrest,” and one count of reckless endangerment. He was found guilty on two counts of “obstructing a police officer” – the first presumably for absorbing Bauer’s Taser strikes, the second for allowing his neck to impede the path of Holquist’s bullet.
In what he probably though was a gesture of quasi-divine clemency, Judge Philip T. Caroom fined Housley $ 500 and offered to expunge the guilty verdicts after a brief term of probation. To his credit, Housley — who has had several reconstructive surgeries on his jaw and mouth, and will have to endure several more — refused the deal in order to appeal the verdicts.
Assistant State’s Attorney Thomas Mitchell was also dissatisfied with the sentence, insisting that Housley’s actions – like those of any other Mundane seeking to protect his home and family from unwarranted police violence — “rose to the level of criminal conduct.”
https://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/61297.html#more-61297
I have no problem getting rid of the PoliceAnswer by Gee Wally
I know what you’re saying. If we got rid of our socialist highways and put toll booths all along them you can bet the right wing would scream bloody murder to go back to the socialist way.Answer by Daniel D
I’m with you, and I agree we need taxes. But most are referring to paying taxes for welfare and food stamps. That’s what they don’t want.Answer by chin
I’m cool with getting rid of the pigs.Answer by Right Wing Extremist
Taxation for things the Govt is supposed to do,is fine.Police,Fire Depts,etc are basic services for ALL of the people,and for the most part we ALL pay the taxes to support them.
Taxation for handouts to loafers,losers and leeches is the big problem.Why should I have my hard earned money taken,to care for those who WILL NOT care for themselves?
For my own part,I don’t need the Police,and find them to be rather useless anyway.Twice in my life I’ve had property stolen from my home while away.Both times I knew it was the result of having useless relatives who had stolen said property,and was more or less able to tell police exactly who stole the property.Both times it was I,not the police,who tracked down and retrieved the property.Both times from pawn shops,with paperwork that proved the people I told them stole the property did IN FACT steal the property.Both times the police did exactly NOTHING.And as for home protection,which is more likely to save my life if my home is invaded while I’m home? A call to 911 with a 10 minute wait for assistance,or a 12 guage pump action shotgun loaded with buckshot.
RWE
Answer by Think Outside the Ballot BoxI would be very happy to do away with police.Answer by Vultureman
There is some point where taxation is slavery…. 95%… 90%…. likely less….what part of your work and wages should you be allowed to keep?
Just tell us what that fair number is….
But alas no one on the left is willing to do this…. they just keep saying the rich should pay more
Who is rich? The number keeps bouncing back and fourth….
Have that number approved as a constitutional ammendment so it will always stay at the fair level and never rise above or drop below it…. no one wants that.
Answer by Miles from MichiganThey do have debtors prison and will prosecute you if you don’t pay your taxes!!
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