tito: Does failing your oral private pilot exam more than twice have an affect on future plans of being a pilot?
I just failed my second oral exam and I am wondering if it will affect my future plans of being an airline pilot. I score a 93 on the written exam (1st try) but I had a very hard examiner. Now that I failed twice without even doing the checkride, I would like to know if it will affect my future plans of being an airline pilot.
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Answer by Capt. Spaulding
You may have to account for any failed checkrides when being considered for employment as a pilot.
I would try another examiner, if the oral isn’t going well, the flight is not going to be any easier..Answer by Ben Dere Dun Dat
One of the qualities an employer looks for is the ability to perform well under stress, and since flight, written and oral tests can be very stressful they are a good indicator of your ability to cope. Since your two failures are now on record any potential pilot employer can find out about them but I wouldn’t worry too much at this stage of your training. Just don’t fail any more tests, especially in your commercial training, and the question may never come up. However, every pilot application I’ve seen (and I’ve seen many) always asks if you have ever failed a test, and if so they usually give you an opportunity to explain. Do not even think of lying about it because if you get caught doing that it will not only affect your chances of becoming a professional pilot, it will end them. Next time study harder, be better prepared, and don’t fail any more tests.Answer by whatwhathuh
Ask your examiner for some information on why you failed and what you can do to be better prepared.
Work with your CFI also.Answer by Thom
It shouldn’t.Answer by Alex
It does show up on your record but at this level it’s not very important. Depending on where you’re flying you can sometimes observe orals and checkrides. If it’s possible for you do as many of these as possible. I found observing to be the best way to prepare for orals. Also, the questions that the examiner asks are all standardized so get a copy from your CFI and study that material.Answer by komandor_pirx
Most airline pilot job application have a question like “Have you ever failed a test for a certificate or a rating, a proficiency check, upgrade etc? If yes explain”. Many smaller employers – charter, corporate, cargo etc – do not have that question on their application (if they have a written job application to begin with), but you still occasionally may be asked about it in your interview.
So the employers (at least the airlines) do ask. However, answering ‘yes’ does not automatically disqualify you. Why? Pilots have to take a lot of tests. Before I even got my first flying job I had taken, let me count, about 9 FAA written exams, and 6 practical exams. Working for an airline you take at least one proficiency check a year as a f/o, and two + a line check as a captain – and this does not count initial, upgrade, and transition courses. So there is a lot of exams, and lots of chances to fail one or two along your career.
What the prospective employers are trying to determine if you have a pattern of failures, too many failures, and if you blame everyone else but yourself for your failures.
So your situation does not destroy your chances of being an airline pilot. However, you should take extra care not to have many more failures in your further training.Answer by Walter
No…and I never had an employer ask if I has failed any tests for any ratings. What counts in getting a flying job is experience, (flight hours), number and type of accidents/incidents, number and type of FAA violations.
That beind said, you need to find a flight instructor who will prepare you for the tests, (oral and practical). If a student fails once, it may be the student’s fault due to nervousness or whatever but if a student fails twice, that usually means the flight instructor did not do his job.
Also, look over the Practical Test Standards. It spells out everything you will be required to do during the practical test.
As to the examiner being “hard,” I would rather send my students to an examiner who does everything by the book tan one who is more lenient, after all…do I want someone who is not qualified flying over my head?
Well…looks like it’s back to studying for you…make sure you know everything that is required of you for the test.