Why do feminists advise men to become more dependent socially, yet at the same time ask for more accommodation?

Sanjia Malakar: Why do feminists advise men to become more dependent socially, yet at the same time ask for more accommodation?
More accommodation for themselves and for women everywhere to ‘have a choice’? How can men become more dependent while at the same time women become more dependent as well? Who in the fuck are we depending on? — How can you convince me that this idealism is not socialistic or perhaps communistic?
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“Enlightenment”– haha.. Women know full well of ‘all the rights’ they have. They know what they can do, and what they can’t they ask feminism to protest. We’ve demonstrated time and again in this forum that (modern) feminism is not concerned with equality. No one in favor of equality would inspire initatives that only advantage women; let’s move on from this, it’s obvious.
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Wendy-
I am not talking about depression, I’m talking about social rights and accommodation. The fact that women cost more yet produce less– yet at the same time are still demanding men do more. How much more could men do?
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Wendy
In the last question your comments about men not seeking help act as if were an indivuals fault for not seeking that help. As if a man could go out and start crying and have people line up to help him. -Our society isn’t set up that way, and both men and women would need to change their ways in order to allow a shift like this to materialize. Men don’t go to women with their problems because men don’t expect women to cater to a “p2ssy” of a man. Women don’t accept men and their problems because women are conditioned to find this behavior not benfitting of a ‘real’ man, and they are also preoccupied with the notion of a man supposedly acting in role of the fixer and the knight.

We can’t both be weak unless we both become strong- and even then it seems a little far fetched.
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Ok basically, women still opt to date ‘up’, still expect and demand certain dominant, masculine qualities of men– and as such it appears that women are perpetuating this problem rather than helping it.

How I marry up if you want to marry up? How can I stay home after the kids if that’s your plan as well? How I be what is normally constituted as ‘feminine’ if you’ve alread taken the position? – Either women are going to allow men to become this new more socially dependent, emotional being/ or else it wont be possible. Right?

Women need to become what men have always been in order for it to work; you can’t provide a plan where men are more dependent and women retain their original position.

Answers and Views:

Answer by Phelix D
From what I understand this is not the case. to me it seems that feminism is about enlightenment. I think its about making women know of all the rights they have and the ones they should have.

Answer by thesweed42
Eve made adam more dependent and look what happened.

Answer by wendy g
What are you talking about? Again, are you talking about seeking help in the case of depression and addiction? Taking responsibility for your life and seeking the help you need to GET BETTER and be a better, functioning contributor to society is socialist?

No, it’s not socialist, it’s called personal responsibility. Maybe it’s time the two of you were introduced:
Personal Responsibility, this is Tommy, he thinks that suicide is what happens when people take responsibility for their lives.

Tommy, this is Personal Responsibility, this is what happens when you admit you have a problem, and want to get help to become better, and a real functioning member of society.

It’s way past time you two met.

EDIT-Women “cost more”…”produce less”….what are you basing this on?

And how are women demanding that men “do more?”

EDIT–I think you are contradicting yourself…how can women demand men be “more dependent” while demanding that they be the strong knight in armor? Which is it?

And very, very few people of either gender “date up.” That’s a myth perpetuated by the existence of the few Anna Nichole Smiths of the world. The vast majority of women and men date and marry in their social tier. That’s the reality.

And “running into the street and crying” has nothing to do with it. It is an issue of being able to set aside stupid pride (which we all have) and get the help you need. Are you suggesting that men can’t get help for depression, addiction, or other problems? Where do you get that from?

Answer by Nancy Drew
I don’t feel the “need” to convince you of anything, lol. I don’t care enough. It doesn’t matter to me.

Whine whine whine whine whine…
You want an ECHO CHAMBER so the sound of your own whining can bounce off the walls and last longer.

*yawn*

Answer by ms.sophisticate
All we are asking you is to leave us be. We don’t care about how you feel about it, or what you think about it. Please, just leave us alone. When we need you, we will find you. I promise. In this day and age we can happily survive without your constant nagging and whining. Be anything you would like to be, and let us do the same. We are not in kindergarten any longer, so let’s just behave like adults.

Answer by CryBabies
As people we should all look after and depend on one another. Of course this wont happen i mean look at most societies out there (not including Sweden or France).

It is ok to be dependent on a partner while still having oppourtunities and be able to have a choice in what you do with your life. Dependence can be a good thing if shared equally in a relationship and one isnt suffocating another. To be truly yourself and able to have a choice in what you do with your life is amazing and to want someone there by your side isnt a sin. No matter what race or gender.

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Phelix D has it right, feminism is just about rights and equality.